WHAT IS YOUR CONTRIBUTION FOR GETTING O.R.O.P.?

WHAT IS YOUR CONTRIBUTION FOR GETTING O.R.O.P.? HAVE YOU JOINED IN ANY DHARNA ANY WHERE ? WITHOUT SHOWING OUR PAIN WE WILL NOT GET ANY GAIN. JOIN I.E.S.M. AND FIGHT FOR O.R.O.P. THINK IT OVER AND JOIN IMMEDIATELY FOR O.R.O.P.

UNITY IS OUR STRENGTH

DEAR VETERANS
OUR UNITY IS VERY IMPORTANT
PLEASE HELP THE POOR JAWANS

THEY ARE MORE IN NUMBER

BRING THEM UNDER YOUR COMMAND
BY LOVE & COMPASSION
THEN YOU SEE HOW
THINGS MOVE WITH THE GOVT


PLEASE THINK IT OVER

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KNOW THE RATES OF DISABILITY PENSIONS

W.E.F.01.01.2006

(FOR PRE 01.01.06)(100%)
READ CDA CIRCULAR 456
JCOs (FOR 100%)
READ CIRCULAR 456
OTHER RANKS (FOR 100%)
READ CIRCULAR 456

WAR INJURY PENSION
FOR ALL RANKS (100%)
READ CDA CIRCULAR 456

DISABILITY PENSION &
WAR INJURY PENSION
TO BE PAID WITH D.A.

CONSTANT ATTENDANCE ALLOWANCE
FOR ALL RANKS (FOR 100%)
Rs.3750/-W.E.F. 01.01.2011

MINIMUM SPECIAL FAMILY PENSION
Rs.7000/- W.E.F.01.01.2006

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IT IS BETTER TO KNOW

YOUR PENSION ENTITLEMENTS THAN

YOUR LIQUOR QUOTA

HELP ALL TO GET
CORRECT PENSION FROM BANKS

REMEMBER, THAT OUR DEMAND OF

ONE RANK ONE PENSION

STILL NOT ACCEPTED BY GOVT.

20,000 MEDALS SURRENDERED

OUR FIGHT CONTINUES

JOIN THE MISSION TO WIN

THERE IS NO GAIN WITHOUT PAIN

LET US FIGHT FOR JUSTICE
OROP MEANS
EQUAL PENSION
FOR EQUAL RANK
GROUP,AND SERVICE
IRRESPECTIVE OF DATE
OF RETIREMENT
WHETHER POST 01.01.2006
OR PRE 01.01.2006

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RECENT JUDGEMENT - AFT KOCHI

WIDOW OF A RE-EMPLOYED EXSM

ENTITLED FOR DUAL FAMILY PENSION


"நல்ல நிர்வாகத்தால் வழங்கப்படும்

நீதி தான் உயர்ந்தது.

நீதி மன்றங்களினால் பெறப்படும் நீதிகள்

நிர்வாகத்துக்கு பெரும் அவமானம்

என்பதை நிர்வாகம்

(Ministry of Defence)

நன்கு உணர வேண்டும்."

தகுதியுள்ள விதவைகளுக்கு உடனே

இரண்டு குடும்ப பென்ஷன் வழங்க வேண்டும்

முன்னாள் படை வீரர் குடும்பங்களின்

நலன் காப்பது ராணுவ அமைச்சகத்தின்

தலையாய கடமையாகும்

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Tuesday, March 16, 2010

THE REVISED PENSION FOR JCOS & BELOW


THE revised pension for JCOs & below

A most valuable comment that every PBOR should read & appreciate.

The new pension rules for our veteran brothers up to the JCO & Eqvt level based on the recommendations of Secretary committee are finally out & accessible to all the interested veterans having computer access.
In this connection I would like to bring out my comments published earlier in this blog which are copied & placed below.
The revised pension per the proposal of secretary would most likely be for X group with 33 years of service including weightage:

Sepoy 50% of 14050 = 7025
Naik 50 % of 15060 =7530
Havildar 50 % of 16710 =8355
Naib Subedar 50 % of 23020 =11510
Subedar 50 % of 26210 = 13105
Sub Major 50 % of 26900 = 13450
EO&E
You may verify these figures from the table in 6th pay commision report , modified by the secretaries Report.The formula for my calculation was given in my earlier comments.
Regards & best wishes .
SKS
I should bring out here that my calculation was slightly different for the ranks of Sepoy ,Naik & Havildar due to my omission of element of Classification pay/allowance of Rs 120/- thereby showing a discrepancy of Rs 60/- in my figures arrived at.However ,the figures in respect of Nb Subedar ,Subedar & Sub Major are correctly calculated by me as compared to the figures appearing in the table for army veterans in group X at 30 Years plus service.
Now it would be interesting to compare the pension if it was granted @70% of the minimum of the pay band as per the scale approved by the Govt.


The amount of pension based on 70% of the minimum pay band is placed below for comparison with the amount now approved by the Govt:
Sepoy : 70% of (5200+2000 grade pay+2000 MSP +1400 Group X pay +150 of Classification pay=10750x70%=7525 while the presnt pension approve is 7085.
Naik:5200+2400+2000+1400+120=11120x70%=7784 compared to 7590 approved pension.
Havildar: 5200+2800+2000+1400+120=11520
x70%=8064 compared to 8064 approved pension
Nb Sub.:9300+4200+2000+1400=16900
x70%=11830 compared to Rs 11510 approved pension.
Subedar: 9300+4600+2000+1400=17300
x70%=12110 compared to Rs 13105 approved pension.
Sub. Major: 9300+4800+2000+1400=17500
x70%=12250 compared to Rs 13450
I would leave it to the readers to make their own assessment of what is sanctioned as compared to OROP if sanctioned as envisaged by us.


Therefore please do NOT be misguided by the PSEUDO LEADERS who claim that OROP suits only OFFICERS & not all the veterans.Of course I did not calculate the pension of say Havildar who retires post 2006 with 30 years of service. Just imagine what would be his pension while he is placed in pay band as on 01 jan 2006 at say 26/27 years of service & his pension amount in comparison with a Havildar with the same length of service but who retired before 01 Jan 2006.
I leave it your judgement to reconcile to the present state of your pension in case you had retired before Jan 2006 or aspire & fight for OROP.
With best wishes to all the veterans & hope that I could make you realize what you should aspire for & why.
SKS( Veteran)

March 12, 2010 8:40 AM

Bloggergentle said...


I wish to correct the typing error in my above post for the rank of Havildar. It should read as 8064 compared to Rs 8415 approved pension.
Thanks for publishing my comments.
With regards,
SKS (Veteran)

March 13, 2010 6:10 AM

Thank you Sir. The “indianexserviceman blog” is proud to publish your comments.

13 comments:

Murthy said...

I am browsing thru a lot of blogs of Ex-Servicemen. I find one common that each & every blog is fighting each other and takes the credit. The present is on the same line. This calculation is considered for full length of service. What about some anomolies for SGT in AF. The Group I SGT is placed with LAC & CPL. When Sgt being considered as SNCO and enjoying the facilities of JWO/WO, why his band is lowered to CPL level. Will any bloggers raise this point. Murthy.

Hello Muthu, trust this will be published. One thing I find only Officers are still being patronised. Thank God in civil life I held better position and done great things in finanical world.

gentle said...

Dear Murthy,
To start with, I would like to congratulate you that " in civil life held better position(than probably in IAF) & done great things in financial world."
Now coming to your comments about the anomalies for SGT in IAF ,I wish to bring out the following:
The pension tables are based on Max length of service in each rank & follow the norms of higher the rank but equal length of service ,the pension is correspondingly higher. However ,the Govt had revised the reckon-able additional service for determining the pension from 5 years to all servicemen to 10,8,6 years for Sepoys, Naik,Havildar & eqvt respectively while retaining the same to 5 years for higher ranks of JCOS & Eqvt effective 01 Jan 2006 ,before the 6PC report was even published. Now this provision did help the ranks of LAC & CPLs of IAF only between 15 to 17.5years of service.If we are to ask any LAC affected by this (Which I wonder if any one exists) to just a few CPLs who belong to a period, joining IAF before 1979 when the initial term of engagement was changed to 20 years of service. So let us NOT grudge a few of those CPLs who could not make it to the rank of SGT due to any reason ,an extra 100 Rs basic pension.Again the number of such affected CPLs is just negligible!
Be large hearted to such beneficiaries after all they too deserve some thing when all of US are hankering for MORE.
Now coming to having a higher pay band for SNCOs, it does deserve consideration. But let us NOT IGNORE one aspect of this rank that is is NOT time based rank yet.Some trades/ Groups specially in IAF get faster promotions to this rank while others have to wait for longer periods.In stead of making rank based pay structure in the armed forces, we should have a revised basis of pay scale based on length of service supported by other qualifying features of passing prescribed tests of proficiency. There is much more to be considered than what I have just stated basically to cover your comments ,including the effective date of such revision should have been 01 Jan,2006 rather than July 2009.
I am NOT sure whether Veteran Muthukrishanan has been specially patronizing me for being an Ex Officer or for the conviction generated by what I wrote.
The purpose of my initial comments was to apprise the Ex-servicemen about the inadequacy of pension granted by the Committee of Secretaries,even the grant of pension to 70% of minimum,as compared with the OROP which would universally benefit all of us ,irrespective of status for all future revisions of pensions. Of course each has his own perception/aspiration.BUT LET US BE GUIDED BY OUR OWN CONVICTIONS BASED ON SOUND REASONING.
With warm regards,
SKS ( Veteran)

Murthy said...

Dear SKS

Thanks for the details. My only point was that SGT is treated as SNCO and extended various facilities such as in the mess, orderly duties, then why their band is lowered. I was retired in the year 1981after 18 years service and now I am not aware of many things in IAF. However whatever we old people get , most of us are content. One more thing I wish to say that this pension increase was declared due to question raised by Sri.L.K.Advani in Lok Sabha and within 5 days the long pending matter was resolved.

Thanks once again.

Anonymous said...

IF IT IS AN OROP AND RELIGIOUSLY IMPLEMENTED, ALL THE GOVT SHOULD DO IS TO PLACE ALL THE PENSIONERS WHETHER PRE OR POST 1.1.06 UNDER THE SAME BANNER WITH EQUAL PENSION FOR EQUAL SERVICE DISREGARDING THE GROUPS THEY HELD WHILE IN SERVICE.

prahlad singh said...

dear originator(of this site)
This spot seems to have developed a good place for exchanging views and desciminating information.Thanks
I wish to know about this 70% thing has it been done or under consideration.Secondly still there are many anomalies in the pension .The post 1-1-2006 pensioners(specially JCOs) are getting lesser pension than their counterparts of Pre 01-01-2006 any relief in offing? Prahlad Singh

Joginder Singh said...

I have spent three months almost every day going to the pension office(DPDO)Amritsar for restarting my pension, infact they lost my Pension book from the file if I had no photo copy of my pension book with me then you could imagine what would be the result! After got exhausted in an effort to restart my pension as NRI I had to return without any fruitful decision. Once they sent the case to Jullander office and came back due to some new index forms were not filled and my pesion case file was still hanging around there only, some days DPDO was sick and some times on holidays. My head was in pain with stress to see how a pensioner is treated!

KOHLI said...

indian navy ex chief artificer
[this rank was of CPO GROUP A ]

COULD U EVER THINK A MALADY IN WELFARE OF EXSERVICE MEN.

I RTRD IN JAN 1969 AFTER 15YRS.I WAS NOT PAID A SINGLE PAISA AS SERVICE GRAUTITY. DCRG.THEY SAY DCRG CAME IN TO EFFECT FROM YR 1970.

WHAT HAPPENED TO PERSONNEL WHO SERVED THE SERVICES WERE UNWANTED.

ONCE THE RULE IS BROUGHT OUT IT SHOULD BE APPLICABLE TO PRE OR POST ERA.ANY COMMENT & CAN ANY BODY ANSWER THIS QUARRY.

KOHLI DS ON 50537 SERVED 1955 T0 191969.

Yahoo said...

Mr Verma has posted the table of pension amount for those PBOR who completed full length of service. May I know what will be total pension of pre 1995 PBOR who have completed 15 years of service or 16,17,18,19 or 20 years of service.It will be highly appreciated if this table of pension is posted in your blog. Moreover, it is seen that there is a huge disparity in pension of PBOR of pre/post 2004 PBOR. My E-mail address is mahesh_181a@yahoo.co.in

Thanks.

Mahesh Sharma
Ex Hav/Clk

Anonymous said...

even passing 30 days of orop orders still it is not clarified about the benefits of pensionary rewards as such requested to clarify

susil kumar biswas said...

15106066N Ex Hav(clk) susil Kumar Biswas, (Regt of Arty), request you to send my latest PPO as per circular No 506 dt 18 Jan 2013 in connection with circular No 471 dt 30.9.2011 and also issue requisite order to SBI, Bhadreswar to adjust/credit proper amount to my pension account at the earliest please. My date of retirement 01 Mar 2006 which notionally pension basic to be setup as per above authority(less Rs 8355/-).(I have completed 20 years & 04 months service). An early action is requested.

hazur saran said...

I have gone through the OROP tables orders as published.
I am surprised to note no benefits are given to JCOs and.equilents in Air Force and Navy.May I know the reason we are left out dry in these hard times for which we waited so long. In the orders issued in respective tables for above Ranks show NO CHANGE.
It is very sad. AnyConvincing answer ?
N.H.Saran. Ex. Chief EL(R)

Anonymous said...

Sirs, thanks to all of you being superhuman, telling some genuine facts to this totally ignorant community (ex men--army especially). I being in army hardly know any thing about pension, welfare or what an exman means. Thanks for this enlightened blo. Please do tell about privileges given to exman in govt schemes/jobs.

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